Being in the convo for a top player like Vini and at the same time, bullying the orcs for Bruno is not something I’ve seen Arsenal do ever in my 36 years supporting.
It’s like we’ve had a major glow up, lost 40pounds and suddenly we’re getting right swiped. Might not get vini in the end but no one’s laughing at arsenal being in the convo. That’s massive.
A big thank you to Papa Wenger man. The sacrifices he made, is a big reason we are in the position we are today. Reigning League Champions and a legit chance of luring away one of the best players in the world from Real Madrid.
I'm at 65 -70 percent chance, because everyone says Madrid don't want to up their offer more, but also they really can't or don't want to give him more image rights share.
On top of that there's buying Diomande, Rodri, and maybe more.
I read Mourinhos quotes about Vini that he made last year. It's really bad. No way Vini can forget that.
Basically saying that Vini always has problems everywhere, but nobody claims these types of problems.
I'm paraphrasing, but the actual quote is worse.
I think this was probably all set in motion when Mourinho was hired.
Infantino canceling the privatization plans for the world cup with his tail between his legs. The guy needs to be removed now. I am pretty convinced he has taken money from interested parties since he became president. He was going to sell the greatest spectacle in the world to JP Morgan so that they can look after their investment and make money on fans.
not just that, anyone who got into his ear about privatizing world cup with investors likely bribing him, he taking kick backs etc. Corrupt fucker throw his ass in jail like Platini
we better be ready if this happens. Managing an EGO his size will be very hard. Nothing speaks to me about how we is going to immerse himself or adapt to our culture at Arsenal and even his role and playing style. Are we adapting to him or does he get the Eze in the doghouse treatment for not doing what Mike wants? This has too many ? marks
Like working hard, and not being poop quality on the pitch?
I would be thrilled if we could unload Eze. Nice guy, but a major fail. A lot of money. I'd take a 10-20 mil loss to dump him, because his age will make him unsellable in a year or two.
Maybe to Newcastle? Villa? Spurs fans wouldn't want him now.
Guimaraes is a different story. He will not disappoint and everyone knows that. So not getting anything back for him in future is worth it.
There’s a world in which Madrid gets better on the field with Vini’s exit
His exit deals with the whole unwholesome competition with Mbappe, who is the better player, regardless of whether you lie him or not.
His exit also helps them regain control of that unwieldy squad ethos, not because Vini is the bad egg. They can frame his exit to suit their own ulterior motives
Yeah. I can see them getting better by just platforming Mbappe and signing guys that get the best out of him from the left which is where he prefers to play.
Even if he uses this to get himself a better contract, it is fine. We tired. And that is what matters. We won't get the superstar this time. But there will be a next time.
Our fans would ADORE him and there wouldn't be any further racial abuse like he receives from the fans is Spain.
I would hope that RocNation, Vini's agents, would have a plan to increase his global reach by becoming the face of Arsenal.
And, I would hope that Josh has plans to increase the visibility of The Arsenal by doing more preseason games or events here in the States...maybe bring the team over to the USA to honor them for being Champions of England at the start of the season for the Rams...or something like that.
madrid have the $, it is whether or not they think he is worth it as it is possible that Haaland might be coming over and Mbappe would be moving to the left next year.
I am not as sure as some on here. I think Perez will probably increase the money and meet him half way. He probably stays. I don't believe these "take it or leave it" offers in the spanish media.
But what I love is the pure ambition we are showing here. If he stays, he stays. But if he leaves, us being there is what I always thought we should be capable of. We should be in the running for superstars.
Agreeing personal terms means we are willing to go for it. That is all you can ask from the club.
I got it completely wrong about Bruno but hopefully I’m right about Vini. Marca saying real have given him an ultimatum to either sign or he’ll be sold. So it’s really down to him. Stay in mbappe’s shadow playing for a scumbag manager or hit the streets of London playing in a league that’s actually competitive. He signs and there’ll be another impromptu street party 💯
I hope the media team are ready. I want a proper ten minute unveiling vid
Yes, and by doubling down—even in the media—Real makes even harder for Vini to stay without losing face. I’m starting to believe Madrid will let it happen…
I thought last night’s podcast was realistic and constructive about Vini and it started to persuade me for the first time that this deal might be a possibility. I think he started off by using Arsenal as a useful negotiating chip but so strong has been the Arsenal bid and bid team, helmed I believe by Josh Kroenke personally , that it has really alerted Vini and his team to the potential that Arsenal offers - Champions of the best league in the world, based in London and offering a powerful proposition.
Last May showed just how big Arsenal are now globally. How many jerseys would we sell and how many companies would be all over Vini to promote products if he comes to the Premier League? Adidas might contribute significantly to this deal for example. Pedro made this point last night . If you are still an Arteta denier and a Kroenke hater you need to wake up and smell the coffee because Arsenal can now compete with anyone . We are potentially a super club but we need to win a Champions League to complete our elevation .
Two world class Brazilians would be a very good start to our team building
Being in the convo for a top player like Vini and at the same time, bullying the orcs for Bruno is not something I’ve seen Arsenal do ever in my 36 years supporting.
It’s like we’ve had a major glow up, lost 40pounds and suddenly we’re getting right swiped. Might not get vini in the end but no one’s laughing at arsenal being in the convo. That’s massive.
Bruno's agent posting a photo of Bruno and Vini in isolation, celebrating on the pitch for Brazil.
A big thank you to Papa Wenger man. The sacrifices he made, is a big reason we are in the position we are today. Reigning League Champions and a legit chance of luring away one of the best players in the world from Real Madrid.
Who would have thought huh.
Man I have a 50 percent hope it will happen
I'm at 65 -70 percent chance, because everyone says Madrid don't want to up their offer more, but also they really can't or don't want to give him more image rights share.
On top of that there's buying Diomande, Rodri, and maybe more.
I read Mourinhos quotes about Vini that he made last year. It's really bad. No way Vini can forget that.
Basically saying that Vini always has problems everywhere, but nobody claims these types of problems.
I'm paraphrasing, but the actual quote is worse.
I think this was probably all set in motion when Mourinho was hired.
Infantino canceling the privatization plans for the world cup with his tail between his legs. The guy needs to be removed now. I am pretty convinced he has taken money from interested parties since he became president. He was going to sell the greatest spectacle in the world to JP Morgan so that they can look after their investment and make money on fans.
I hope he is investigated.
not just that, anyone who got into his ear about privatizing world cup with investors likely bribing him, he taking kick backs etc. Corrupt fucker throw his ass in jail like Platini
RIP Franco
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1634479480351762/posts/1990662348066805/
A true great of the game has passed away RIP Franco
we better be ready if this happens. Managing an EGO his size will be very hard. Nothing speaks to me about how we is going to immerse himself or adapt to our culture at Arsenal and even his role and playing style. Are we adapting to him or does he get the Eze in the doghouse treatment for not doing what Mike wants? This has too many ? marks
Not doing what Arteta wants?
Like working hard, and not being poop quality on the pitch?
I would be thrilled if we could unload Eze. Nice guy, but a major fail. A lot of money. I'd take a 10-20 mil loss to dump him, because his age will make him unsellable in a year or two.
Maybe to Newcastle? Villa? Spurs fans wouldn't want him now.
Guimaraes is a different story. He will not disappoint and everyone knows that. So not getting anything back for him in future is worth it.
If you put in your thinking hat
There’s a world in which Madrid gets better on the field with Vini’s exit
His exit deals with the whole unwholesome competition with Mbappe, who is the better player, regardless of whether you lie him or not.
His exit also helps them regain control of that unwieldy squad ethos, not because Vini is the bad egg. They can frame his exit to suit their own ulterior motives
Yeah. I can see them getting better by just platforming Mbappe and signing guys that get the best out of him from the left which is where he prefers to play.
Omar Little from the HBO series, ‘The Wire”: “ You come at the king, you best not miss”
If we execute this, we look like geniuses
If we fall short, we would have been used liked tampons
For the sake of the club I love and for the sanity of many people here, who are super invested in it, I hope it works out.
Even if he uses this to get himself a better contract, it is fine. We tired. And that is what matters. We won't get the superstar this time. But there will be a next time.
Tampons? Man, your visuals are too much! hahaha
Well, it would be GREAT to have Vini...for sure.
Our fans would ADORE him and there wouldn't be any further racial abuse like he receives from the fans is Spain.
I would hope that RocNation, Vini's agents, would have a plan to increase his global reach by becoming the face of Arsenal.
And, I would hope that Josh has plans to increase the visibility of The Arsenal by doing more preseason games or events here in the States...maybe bring the team over to the USA to honor them for being Champions of England at the start of the season for the Rams...or something like that.
Why not?
We got to start acting GLOBALLY with BIG ideas
What have we been doing in the last decade then?
How many US preseason tours
How many Asian tours
Some of you need to calm down, the way people are carrying in, you would think Arsenal was one tiny club tucked away in the desert.
madrid have the $, it is whether or not they think he is worth it as it is possible that Haaland might be coming over and Mbappe would be moving to the left next year.
Good points. I think Haaland will tire of the next gen project, weak versions of the stars past.
He'll follow Rodri, Bernardo, and many more greats of the past.
Rayan Jerky is no Debruyne.
Pedro,
I thought your 55 percent estimate was very fair, but conservative... Now it's obviously gone up...
What's the new number?
Personally right now I’m about 60/40 it’s going to happen.
But what a buzz even at the possibility.
We get this guy along with Bruno G and then take a look at our strongest 11 when everyone is ready.
No way we ain’t winning the league again this coming season.
But breathe…
We have the best first 15 in the world.
Better than psg?
I am not as sure as some on here. I think Perez will probably increase the money and meet him half way. He probably stays. I don't believe these "take it or leave it" offers in the spanish media.
But what I love is the pure ambition we are showing here. If he stays, he stays. But if he leaves, us being there is what I always thought we should be capable of. We should be in the running for superstars.
Agreeing personal terms means we are willing to go for it. That is all you can ask from the club.
I see you man. You’re shielding yourself from heartbreak 💔
Not really 😂😂😂.
Always thought we had a 1% chance out of a 100%. Even when the links came out from Ornstein. Still think it is the same.
But us being there matters to me. I was pissed off when we let Kvara go to PSG without any competition when we were dealing with an injury crisis.
I got it completely wrong about Bruno but hopefully I’m right about Vini. Marca saying real have given him an ultimatum to either sign or he’ll be sold. So it’s really down to him. Stay in mbappe’s shadow playing for a scumbag manager or hit the streets of London playing in a league that’s actually competitive. He signs and there’ll be another impromptu street party 💯
I hope the media team are ready. I want a proper ten minute unveiling vid
Yes, and by doubling down—even in the media—Real makes even harder for Vini to stay without losing face. I’m starting to believe Madrid will let it happen…
I thought last night’s podcast was realistic and constructive about Vini and it started to persuade me for the first time that this deal might be a possibility. I think he started off by using Arsenal as a useful negotiating chip but so strong has been the Arsenal bid and bid team, helmed I believe by Josh Kroenke personally , that it has really alerted Vini and his team to the potential that Arsenal offers - Champions of the best league in the world, based in London and offering a powerful proposition.
Last May showed just how big Arsenal are now globally. How many jerseys would we sell and how many companies would be all over Vini to promote products if he comes to the Premier League? Adidas might contribute significantly to this deal for example. Pedro made this point last night . If you are still an Arteta denier and a Kroenke hater you need to wake up and smell the coffee because Arsenal can now compete with anyone . We are potentially a super club but we need to win a Champions League to complete our elevation .
Two world class Brazilians would be a very good start to our team building
. We are potentially a super club but we need to win a Champions League to complete our elevation .
Part of the reason I think that Josh is fully involved with trying to secure the deal.
We get that elusive first UCL and we can become the super club of England in the near/mid future.
*I’n multiple beers deep tonight* but I bloody believe it
If the chips fall our way, “super club of England” will be an understatement.
We are willing to give him 100 percent of his image rights ?
I am! Just get in the door Vini!