Arteta is a greedy bastard and all his supporters are stupid, except of course those supporters, media personalities and agents that are on his payroll. I'm pretty certain that he couldn't have pulled this off all by himself. A guy with no pedigree both as a player and a coach to suddenly becoming the second best paid manager in England serving boring football 80% of the time and bottling up every end of the season 5 seasons in a row. Again if you are out there and you call yourself an arsenal fan and you are still supporting this nonsense even when you are not on his payroll, you are stupid. Give this fraud 10 more seasons, he will keep bottling up every time.
I think what a lot of you are forgetting is that the owners priorities are not about winning a trophy. It's keeping the clubs value going up.
Winning something is just seen as a bonus.
As long as the club is in the top 4/CL spots, then this is seen as hitting the target.
And herein lies the problem. Arteta may well be saying that he wants to win trophies, but the reality is that there is no actual pressure from the top to push him to actually do so.
So all of you talking about how x, y club would sack their manager as he has still not won anything, this is not how The Arsenal is run these days.
All the club wants is stability. And as long as they achieve that, Arteta will be safe.
For some, it is either arteta achieve success or arsenal can forget about success. It very unfortunate. If we can't get arteta's bus, we'll rather die at the bus station. No other driver can take us to our desired destination. Arsenal has boarded 'one chance'
We didn't really hold on to Emery for too long though, he was out the door the first really bad set of results the season after getting us to our first European final since 2006, I feel that's what serious teams should do anyway....Except you're a Pep wining the league every year, no other very serious club leaves a manager in charge who's not won anything in 5 whole seasons, except the mid table teams... Don't envy them but even with all the shit they've had to endure as a football club in recent years, United have won a domestic up or two I think and maybe hopefully about to add another European trophy to the cabinet, folks can snare at it however they want but it's a trophy more than we've won in 5 years
We're kinda having our Ten Hag moment when you think about it. Probably not as severe but there's parallels for sure. One pissed away 600 million over a few years the other 800 million. Both got new contracts and then there was an obvious period of regression. I mean we keep avoiding the conversation about the shit football this season but it's so apparent.
I want to wait until the end of the season before I make my remarks on this season.
But one thing is very clear with me that I need to mention now, considering that Arteta is not going anywhere, is that I want to see him evolve and actually learn things like rotating and trusting his team or knowing when to train hard and when not to.
My biggest dilemma with Arteta is that he acts like he knows it all and will do nothing to change any of his very obvious flaws.
Mark my words, there will be huge pressure on Arteta to actually get some silver in the cabinet next season. We are now 5 years in and we still have no major trophy in the cabinet despite his promises.
He really needs to progress and go to the next level. Not knowing when to make subs and change a game around is a major flaw. He really must make an effort to learn instead of thinking he knows it all.
Arsenal fans need 7 years to decide if a manager is good enough.
Madrid is parting ways with a manager who won Champions league last season. He's also one of their most successful managers.
Slot came to Liverpool and won the league in his first year. Liverpool was 3rd last season.
If anything, that shows that Arsenal can get a proper manager and win the league next season. But we'd rather suffer through Arteta's nonsense again.
Arsenal fans always have standards when it's other clubs but throw them out when it's Arsenal. Now, we're hearing United is in the final because it's a 'weakened' Europa league when Arsenal lost to football powerhouses like Olympiacos, Villarreal, and Sporting in the Europa league.
Something that's been said recently is that now (really they mean next season and the season after that etc) is the time when we need to be successful or else certain players will look to leave. Which begs the question is that with the current manager or with someone else?
Fantastic news regarding Saliba. Now is the time to gauge what he wants. Pay him if he plans on staying. If not sell by next summer. Can't afford to have all the Trent bullshit.
It's so convenient that transfer and warchest stories are inundating the Arsenal space right after a major loss. Very similar scenario occurred in January after successive cup losses to Man Utd and Newcastle
I really don't see the point of one more season for arteta. Guy has overseen 25 transfer ins during his time here and our best players are still the ones from before he came here. Saliba, Big Gabby, Saka and martinelli are before his time.
After 25 transfer ins if he's still looking to replace, there are a few things we have to address. First is that mikel heavily relies on the cheque book. Partey 50m, Declan 100m, white 50m, not to mention his over priced flops. Can he turn 10-15m purchases into superstars?? Hardly unlikely.
Second, he is immune to change. He's been making the same mistake for last 4 years, what makes people so sure that he will change next season?? How will next season be any different? Guy will still run his players into the ground. Still only trust the 13 same players and get useless signings like sterling to fill the squad.
Good post. Leads one to think, what do his assistants actually do? His orders it appears. No one to get in his ear and tell him, no no no. Maybe Pep if anything!
Josh, nah. He is enamored with Mike. Its sad. No one holds him responsible. His nonsensical press conferences just show how little accountability and humility he has.
Get rid of now. Of course would not happen with these owners. They just want the cash, thats it.
So are we gonna keep pretending that Kevin DE Bruyne on a free and modest wages can't do a job for us? These are the cheap sensible deals that can make a world of difference that we are never in on. Seems we're more concerned with getting that Spanish goalkeeper for Ramsdales fee to come seat on the bench.
If we were more sensible with our cash we could get the next Yarn Sommer or Maignan on a free for modest wages and save bulk money for more pressing attacking needs.
We just never seem to do things with a modicum of logic. .
I'm just curious to know if clubs like Madrid, Barca, Bayern have fans who always say give the manager time
Ancellotti will still be an Arsenal manager going by the fact that he won UCL last season but he is gone over there
I think Arsenal as a club likes the pattern of wait till we luck unto something great and so fans who thinks otherwise will always be irritated by it sadly
Arteta is a greedy bastard and all his supporters are stupid, except of course those supporters, media personalities and agents that are on his payroll. I'm pretty certain that he couldn't have pulled this off all by himself. A guy with no pedigree both as a player and a coach to suddenly becoming the second best paid manager in England serving boring football 80% of the time and bottling up every end of the season 5 seasons in a row. Again if you are out there and you call yourself an arsenal fan and you are still supporting this nonsense even when you are not on his payroll, you are stupid. Give this fraud 10 more seasons, he will keep bottling up every time.
We signed a defensive player. Great job. Just what we needed to get us over the line. Probably should spend 30m on a keeper next. LB anyone?
I think what a lot of you are forgetting is that the owners priorities are not about winning a trophy. It's keeping the clubs value going up.
Winning something is just seen as a bonus.
As long as the club is in the top 4/CL spots, then this is seen as hitting the target.
And herein lies the problem. Arteta may well be saying that he wants to win trophies, but the reality is that there is no actual pressure from the top to push him to actually do so.
So all of you talking about how x, y club would sack their manager as he has still not won anything, this is not how The Arsenal is run these days.
All the club wants is stability. And as long as they achieve that, Arteta will be safe.
For some, it is either arteta achieve success or arsenal can forget about success. It very unfortunate. If we can't get arteta's bus, we'll rather die at the bus station. No other driver can take us to our desired destination. Arsenal has boarded 'one chance'
We didn't really hold on to Emery for too long though, he was out the door the first really bad set of results the season after getting us to our first European final since 2006, I feel that's what serious teams should do anyway....Except you're a Pep wining the league every year, no other very serious club leaves a manager in charge who's not won anything in 5 whole seasons, except the mid table teams... Don't envy them but even with all the shit they've had to endure as a football club in recent years, United have won a domestic up or two I think and maybe hopefully about to add another European trophy to the cabinet, folks can snare at it however they want but it's a trophy more than we've won in 5 years
We're kinda having our Ten Hag moment when you think about it. Probably not as severe but there's parallels for sure. One pissed away 600 million over a few years the other 800 million. Both got new contracts and then there was an obvious period of regression. I mean we keep avoiding the conversation about the shit football this season but it's so apparent.
I want to wait until the end of the season before I make my remarks on this season.
But one thing is very clear with me that I need to mention now, considering that Arteta is not going anywhere, is that I want to see him evolve and actually learn things like rotating and trusting his team or knowing when to train hard and when not to.
My biggest dilemma with Arteta is that he acts like he knows it all and will do nothing to change any of his very obvious flaws.
Mark my words, there will be huge pressure on Arteta to actually get some silver in the cabinet next season. We are now 5 years in and we still have no major trophy in the cabinet despite his promises.
He really needs to progress and go to the next level. Not knowing when to make subs and change a game around is a major flaw. He really must make an effort to learn instead of thinking he knows it all.
Nothing like year 6 before a manager learns that he can in fact make 5 subs per match
If when we were hounding Emery out in 2019, you were told "you'll win an FA cup this season and nothing else till 2025,"
Would you have taken it?
No. Hell no.
Arsenal fans need 7 years to decide if a manager is good enough.
Madrid is parting ways with a manager who won Champions league last season. He's also one of their most successful managers.
Slot came to Liverpool and won the league in his first year. Liverpool was 3rd last season.
If anything, that shows that Arsenal can get a proper manager and win the league next season. But we'd rather suffer through Arteta's nonsense again.
Arsenal fans always have standards when it's other clubs but throw them out when it's Arsenal. Now, we're hearing United is in the final because it's a 'weakened' Europa league when Arsenal lost to football powerhouses like Olympiacos, Villarreal, and Sporting in the Europa league.
Just saw this stat somewhere.
Martin Odegaard
Touches in the opposition box against PSG.
1st leg - 1
2nd leg - 2
Oh my.
Something that's been said recently is that now (really they mean next season and the season after that etc) is the time when we need to be successful or else certain players will look to leave. Which begs the question is that with the current manager or with someone else?
Fantastic news regarding Saliba. Now is the time to gauge what he wants. Pay him if he plans on staying. If not sell by next summer. Can't afford to have all the Trent bullshit.
Just a shameless amount of transfer stories and speculation doing the rounds to deflect from yet another disappointing campaign.
It's so convenient that transfer and warchest stories are inundating the Arsenal space right after a major loss. Very similar scenario occurred in January after successive cup losses to Man Utd and Newcastle
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Arsenal have opened talks over new contract for William Saliba. 🇫🇷
No offer yet but expected soon as dialogue ramps up between Andrea Berta and his camp. 🫡
France defender happy at Arsenal but will want terms reflecting his status.
Pay him what he likes. In fact give him Mikel's wages while we're at it
I really don't see the point of one more season for arteta. Guy has overseen 25 transfer ins during his time here and our best players are still the ones from before he came here. Saliba, Big Gabby, Saka and martinelli are before his time.
After 25 transfer ins if he's still looking to replace, there are a few things we have to address. First is that mikel heavily relies on the cheque book. Partey 50m, Declan 100m, white 50m, not to mention his over priced flops. Can he turn 10-15m purchases into superstars?? Hardly unlikely.
Second, he is immune to change. He's been making the same mistake for last 4 years, what makes people so sure that he will change next season?? How will next season be any different? Guy will still run his players into the ground. Still only trust the 13 same players and get useless signings like sterling to fill the squad.
Good post. Leads one to think, what do his assistants actually do? His orders it appears. No one to get in his ear and tell him, no no no. Maybe Pep if anything!
Josh, nah. He is enamored with Mike. Its sad. No one holds him responsible. His nonsensical press conferences just show how little accountability and humility he has.
Get rid of now. Of course would not happen with these owners. They just want the cash, thats it.
So are we gonna keep pretending that Kevin DE Bruyne on a free and modest wages can't do a job for us? These are the cheap sensible deals that can make a world of difference that we are never in on. Seems we're more concerned with getting that Spanish goalkeeper for Ramsdales fee to come seat on the bench.
If we were more sensible with our cash we could get the next Yarn Sommer or Maignan on a free for modest wages and save bulk money for more pressing attacking needs.
We just never seem to do things with a modicum of logic. .
Yah the cheque book manager doesn't know shite about finding gems. Just wants to overpay and then find a replacement when it doesn't work out.
I'm just curious to know if clubs like Madrid, Barca, Bayern have fans who always say give the manager time
Ancellotti will still be an Arsenal manager going by the fact that he won UCL last season but he is gone over there
I think Arsenal as a club likes the pattern of wait till we luck unto something great and so fans who thinks otherwise will always be irritated by it sadly