I also don't get it when we are winning most of the games and have one of the best records in Europe, some people are still complaining about specific players and want to change the system. You don't fix what's not broken. Simple as that.
We waited for Jesus to start games and here we are without much difference if there's any
So we move on to waiting for Harvertz
Tick tock......
The earlier we all realize all the players are contributing their part to the ultimate goal of crossing the line something we are yet to do in the last three years the better
Until then keep scapegoating him, interestingly it seems Arteta doesn't reason like most here
Interesting that people mentioned Giroud and I saw Raptora rewrite history by saying Giroud scored 57 in equivalent of 83 appearances lol. Rewriting history to fit narratives is kinda what he does. Giroud scored 57 goals for France in 153 appearances, that's facts.
But let's compare. In Girouds first full season he scored 11 goals and 3 assists in 33 (I think) appearances, 24 starts. That was in a team renowned for it's attacking prowess and creative excellence and culture.
Where did he come from? A definite top 5 league in France off the back of driving Montpelier to the league title where he top scored with 21 league goals. So definitely an experienced pro.
Of course in his subsequent seasons he became much better and adapted himself better to his limitations factoring the league he was now playing in and became this hold up monster that we all know him as. That's for Giroud.
Gyokeres is unproven in top leagues according to Raptora playing against teams worth 2m so a lesser player in terms of pedigree and experience compared to Ollie but he's already scored 4 goals? That in an increasingly defensive team that's best known for clean sheets than beautiful football. And probably more to come. So if Raptora eventually took to Ollie, is it wrong to expect him to take to Viktor in half the time?
ML let me ask you something. I don't rate Gyokeres as you probably know but accept his work rate draws defenders leaving space for his team mates but why do none of them ever speak to him on the pitch apart from the fact that some say Saka and others won't pass to him ?
It's a conundrum and I can't answer that. I think they are showing him too much respect and probably haven't bonded with him that much yet. But with time it'll come. He's not also able to communicate with any of them yet as to where and how he wants the ball. So I think it's something that'll happen with time.
Oftentimes, many here just arrogate unnecessary importance to themselves.
This school continually and unnecessarily bring up the hair raising performances of Gyokores against the other CFs every game.
Does anyone need be reminded that the Swede is an Arsenal player? He plays for us guys and we must support him as long as he wears the badge! Period.
None here has the power to stop the manager from playing him or not nor preventing Jesus or Kai from being given chances too!
We must welcome with both hands the luxury of having three wonderful players as our CFs.
We do not see football same way hence why the game has a world wide appeal. Our main targets are the EPL and UCL trophies and if we can annex the Carabao and FA Cups along the way, that'd be awesome! But these latter triumphs must not be at the expense of our mains targets.
Continually coming here to lament how bad any of our strikers are on daily basis is trivial, childish and criminal if I may add.
Then again it's extremely ridiculous saying Saka had regressed just because he's experiencing a dry patch. This guy would walk into any team if he so desires.
Our players would thrive on our support and not condemnation.
Gyokeres didn't score many as some would expect, so understandably hope shifts to returning players, Jesus and Havertz , even Merino (as #9)
Jesus has great techniques but , for us, never been a profilic scorer, and Havertz laboured ,mainly as AM (remember he couldn't even trap a ball properly, make simple passes?), for half a season having spent 3 PL seasons before joining. He only began more productive after a break (the infamous Dubai trip?) ...
Most knew the Portuguese league isn't even top 5 in Europe, and I'm not surprised a half baked (lacked pre season) Gyokeres isn't playing well in a new league. That said, I'd want improvements (goals, assists, link up, consistency...) from him helping our title run, and other competitions, in remaining of the season.
Until we sell him, i want him to do better, even slowly, ,and will assess &critique him game by game.. Haven't people talked about supporting whoever wearing the jersey ?
Regardless, his contract expires summer 2027, and this summer TW would basically be the last chance to recoup some money, or another player with market value would walk free. Surely, Arteta ain't going to give him a new contract ?!
Havertz is not the messiah but is Arsenal's best striker. I see you blindly propagate the false narrative about why Gyokeres was purchased.
Every striker misses goals. Every one. Why don't you go back to the 2023-2024 season and remind yourself of what could have been between January and May - and his contributions? He has not played striker at Arsenal for a full season.
He is going to contribute positively to the success we will have this season with goals, assists, hold up play, occupying defenders, and defensive grunt work when he returns. Fin.
Liverpool had more 'experts' backing them for the title than any other team, 5 wins out of 5 at the start of the season suggested they were 'contending'.
Sloppy as hell first half. Still won. That’s how champions behave. I think this is a better team than Wengers simply because they had the best or joint best player in the world at the time and very much relied on him and we are doing this as a team effort. More like pre CR7 era United
today the cutbacks worked well. We went away from them, and now they are paying dividends again. I think Mari cut backs are shit. But Saka and others can do them better
To understand why Mikel is continuing to start Gyokeres, you could probably go back to the 2018 World Cup to get a little insight. Giroud managed no goals or even shots on target. He played seven games and started all but the first game. France went 6 wins with 1 draw, scoring 14 goals and conceding 6.
To be clear, there are differences between Giroud and Gyokeres. Giroud was clearly better in the air with stronger link play but was a less clinical finisher than Gyok (although he could score spectacular goals) and if anything had less pace than our current CF. Deschamps saw Giroud as the ultimate dirty work CF, occupying defenders and creating space for players like Mbappe and Griezmann to exploit.
No Frenchman was complaining when Lloris lifted the cup that year although there were plenty of complaints during the tournament about Giroud's lack of goals and shots. I suspect that few Arsenal fans will be saying much if Odegaard lifts the Premier League trophy at the end of this season.
Excellent take BiC. I'm really yet to see our guy fluff a decent chance (maybe that very weak shot a couple of games ago in the first few minutes). He just doesn't seem to get clear chances. Now whether its because he can't get free from defenders, doesn't find the right positions or not receiving the pass or all of the above, I know i've not wanted a player to smash a goal as much as Gyok, in a long time. Just to get the narrative to change.
You'll have no disagreement from me on that, Pedro. Giroud could be an absolute beast. Glad you see that there may be method to Mikel's madness in starting Gyokeres but it's hard to see him hanging on to that position when Havertz is healthy and match fit.
57 goals, 15 assists in 7450 minutes (the equivalent of 83 full games).
Talking about Giroud, I am reminded of his 15-game drought in the PL (7 games off the bench). Well, Gyokeres is currently on a run of 1 non-penalty goal in 14 games. Top performer, I know.
Giroud's aerial ability didn't move the needle much during that World Cup run if you watch those games back, Rap. Interesting how you only focused on Giroud's advantages over Gyok but not Gyok's advantages over Giroud.
The skills I mentioned are the cornerstone of why Giroud was picked in the WC. The advantages you're talking about are in terms of finishing - who cares if he hits the ball well if he lacks in terms of positioning, in terms of physical skills to reach balls or overpower defenders and takes a day to get himself ready to strike the ball.
His finishing skills help in what way? He's got a few tap-ins + 1 good goal against Leeds and a couple of pens.
3 non-penalty goals in 1240 minutes is a goal every 413 minutes. It's a shocking stat and he doesn't assist either.
His speed doesn't matter much either cause he's physically weak and the average PL defender outmuscles him and toys with him to the point he falls on his arse about 5-6 times per game.
Havertz does everything that Gyok does about 3x better and people were shitting on him. Now Gyokeres is the best cause he lost a duel but toepoked the ball sideways. Did the standards change?!
Martinelli won the aerial fight to get Gyok behind their defence by the way. He did what is expected of our CF but we'll never get to see. And our clinical striker couldn't get the job done so did the last option he had which was to pass sideways with the tip of his boot, out of balance, outmuscled yet again.
Interesting that you don't think pace is a factor in stretching defenders and creating space for your teammates.
As for Havertz, I'm not sure you noticed but he's been out since the opening day of the season. A fit and healthy Havertz will be an upgrade to Gyokeres, but that's irrelevant to my point.
Arteta, who might just know a little more about football than either of us, seems to have the confidence in Gyok to have him do a job for us despite his lack of scoring right now. The team's results, including winning our last 6 Premier League games in a row, seem to indicate that we're doing just fine with Gyok in the line-up.
"A fit and healthy Havertz will be an upgrade to Gyokeres, but that's irrelevant to my point."
The relevant point is no one is coming to big up Havertz if he had played today the exact game Gyok did. You can bet your house on that. But look at the love Gyok is receiving for another shite performance.
"The team's results, including winning our last 6 Premier League games in a row, seem to indicate that we're doing just fine with Gyok in the line-up."
That's how it works now? Okay. Owen Goal as our striker in hottest form and Gabriel who just returned scored 2 goals in 2 games already, compared to Gyok's 3 non-penalty goals in 18 games. We're scrapping somehow, not cause of him but you do you.
Gyok is playing in a system alien to what he's used to at Sporting. Once he figures it and the league out, the goals will start flowing. When last have we had a striker scoring all the goals with Artetaball. I can't see that happening anytime soon unless we change the way we play to suit one player and thats a pipe dream that Arteta will never go for. Give it a rest. Support the team and every player because they're doing wonders to be topping the league and CL. A gap is beginning to form. Its pointless talking shit and trying to derail what's happening. I see some berating Saka. Like WTF are you smoking! Everyone that plays is contributing and we're reaping the rewards. Just pray it keeps working out in our favor for the rest of the season. We need this lot to increase the gap and never let it shrink. It can be done. We have enough this time around.
Rice : “It's tough for him, because he's got two defenders on him all game, all over him. So he has to use his strength, he has to do all he can to help the team and with that goal, without him making that run from Gabi's flick and holding it, setting it off to Martin, that goal wouldn't happen.
“That was a pivotal moment in the game for us to turn the game on its head. I see how hard he hits a ball, and when that space arrives for him and the ball's arriving at his feet to score goals, he will 100 percent score.
“But at the minute, defenders in the Premier League want to be able to stop Viktor Gyokeres, because he's one of the best strikers in the world. Trust me, he's doing unbelievably for us, we wouldn't be where we are without him.”
I'd agree with Rice re his 1st goal... Gyokeres indeed dragged 4 away , and Odegaard and Rice were in a bit of space when the ball got to them... it's just how it happened
The buts about hitting ball hard, would score when opportunity comes etc remain to be seen though Rice tends to be more down to earth in interviews ...
He didn’t have to elaborate that much to defend Gyok. He meant what he said. Could have left it at, he’s doing great. But no, he went in depth to show what he does and brings. I’ll listen to Rice over some child named Richie Rich.
I recall 3 or 4 attempted passes to Gyokeres in the final 3rd... 2 overhit (Odegaard, Gabriel ),and the last one resulted in a Rice goal. That's what he works with...
I want a little more from my striker than "he tries hard and runs a lot", because lots of people can do that, and they dont cost that much in transfer fee and wages.
“It's tough for him, because he's got two defenders on him all game, all over him. So he has to use his strength, he has to do all he can to help the team and with that goal, without him making that run from Gabi's flick and holding it, setting it off to Martin, that goal wouldn't happen.
“That was a pivotal moment in the game for us to turn the game on its head. I see how hard he hits a ball, and when that space arrives for him and the ball's arriving at his feet to score goals, he will 100 percent score.
“But at the minute, defenders in the Premier League want to be able to stop Viktor Gyokeres, because he's one of the best strikers in the world. Trust me, he's doing unbelievably for us, we wouldn't be where we are without him.”
Our record with Gyökeres starting is:
17 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss.
When Gyökeres was injured, we drew with Sunderland, Chelsea and lost to Villa.
While he’s been underwhelming and can do much better, he still does a lot for the team. Until Kai is back, he must lead the line. #Arsenal
I also don't get it when we are winning most of the games and have one of the best records in Europe, some people are still complaining about specific players and want to change the system. You don't fix what's not broken. Simple as that.
We waited for Jesus to start games and here we are without much difference if there's any
So we move on to waiting for Harvertz
Tick tock......
The earlier we all realize all the players are contributing their part to the ultimate goal of crossing the line something we are yet to do in the last three years the better
Until then keep scapegoating him, interestingly it seems Arteta doesn't reason like most here
Interesting that people mentioned Giroud and I saw Raptora rewrite history by saying Giroud scored 57 in equivalent of 83 appearances lol. Rewriting history to fit narratives is kinda what he does. Giroud scored 57 goals for France in 153 appearances, that's facts.
But let's compare. In Girouds first full season he scored 11 goals and 3 assists in 33 (I think) appearances, 24 starts. That was in a team renowned for it's attacking prowess and creative excellence and culture.
Where did he come from? A definite top 5 league in France off the back of driving Montpelier to the league title where he top scored with 21 league goals. So definitely an experienced pro.
Of course in his subsequent seasons he became much better and adapted himself better to his limitations factoring the league he was now playing in and became this hold up monster that we all know him as. That's for Giroud.
Gyokeres is unproven in top leagues according to Raptora playing against teams worth 2m so a lesser player in terms of pedigree and experience compared to Ollie but he's already scored 4 goals? That in an increasingly defensive team that's best known for clean sheets than beautiful football. And probably more to come. So if Raptora eventually took to Ollie, is it wrong to expect him to take to Viktor in half the time?
ML let me ask you something. I don't rate Gyokeres as you probably know but accept his work rate draws defenders leaving space for his team mates but why do none of them ever speak to him on the pitch apart from the fact that some say Saka and others won't pass to him ?
It's a conundrum and I can't answer that. I think they are showing him too much respect and probably haven't bonded with him that much yet. But with time it'll come. He's not also able to communicate with any of them yet as to where and how he wants the ball. So I think it's something that'll happen with time.
"57 goals, 15 assists in 7450 minutes (the equivalent of 83 full games)"
You can't read?
You can't write. Giroud's record is 57 in 137 games
Cause playing 10 minutes is the same as playing 90.
It's counted as one game.
You do realise you're giving him justification for discussing Gyokeres' failings for the umpteenth time!
I'm sorry Bob I couldn't resist
He ignores proper comments that he can't answer and keep turning the same stories around lol.
Oftentimes, many here just arrogate unnecessary importance to themselves.
This school continually and unnecessarily bring up the hair raising performances of Gyokores against the other CFs every game.
Does anyone need be reminded that the Swede is an Arsenal player? He plays for us guys and we must support him as long as he wears the badge! Period.
None here has the power to stop the manager from playing him or not nor preventing Jesus or Kai from being given chances too!
We must welcome with both hands the luxury of having three wonderful players as our CFs.
We do not see football same way hence why the game has a world wide appeal. Our main targets are the EPL and UCL trophies and if we can annex the Carabao and FA Cups along the way, that'd be awesome! But these latter triumphs must not be at the expense of our mains targets.
Continually coming here to lament how bad any of our strikers are on daily basis is trivial, childish and criminal if I may add.
Then again it's extremely ridiculous saying Saka had regressed just because he's experiencing a dry patch. This guy would walk into any team if he so desires.
Our players would thrive on our support and not condemnation.
Spot on.
Probably not 'criminal'!
Gyokeres didn't score many as some would expect, so understandably hope shifts to returning players, Jesus and Havertz , even Merino (as #9)
Jesus has great techniques but , for us, never been a profilic scorer, and Havertz laboured ,mainly as AM (remember he couldn't even trap a ball properly, make simple passes?), for half a season having spent 3 PL seasons before joining. He only began more productive after a break (the infamous Dubai trip?) ...
Most knew the Portuguese league isn't even top 5 in Europe, and I'm not surprised a half baked (lacked pre season) Gyokeres isn't playing well in a new league. That said, I'd want improvements (goals, assists, link up, consistency...) from him helping our title run, and other competitions, in remaining of the season.
Until we sell him, i want him to do better, even slowly, ,and will assess &critique him game by game.. Haven't people talked about supporting whoever wearing the jersey ?
I want to discuss the impact of Gabriel Jesus in his cameo appearances in recent games.
First he forced a defender to score an own goal in the game against Wolves and then he scored a brilliant goal against Aston Villa.
Yesterday he showed another side of his game when he came onto the pitch. That was football
intelligence and work ethic at a time when we came under pressure from Bournemouth.
I hope sincerely that Arsenal are not tempted to offload him in this transfer window, because we
will need his skill set with the demands of this season.
It would not surprise me that he will be selected to play for Brazil in the World Cup at end of this
season if he can maintain current fitness and performance levels.
Regardless, his contract expires summer 2027, and this summer TW would basically be the last chance to recoup some money, or another player with market value would walk free. Surely, Arteta ain't going to give him a new contract ?!
I was talking about the January transfer window. What happens in summer is entirely
different.
Arsenal could be tempted to sell him now if an offer is made, because of his wages.
ic... hopefully we keep him this season,; would be happy if he'd score 10 goals , plus assists, across all competitions
A lot of people singing Havertz as the "Messiah". Fans forget so easily.
Same Havertz who was so wasteful that defenders didn't bother paying attention to him?
Same Havertz that made us go in search of a striker is suddenly the solution? Wake up and remember he was signed as a left 8 to replace Xhaka.
This will ease your disappointment when he comes back to drag shots wide from 3 meters.
Havertz is not the messiah but is Arsenal's best striker. I see you blindly propagate the false narrative about why Gyokeres was purchased.
Every striker misses goals. Every one. Why don't you go back to the 2023-2024 season and remind yourself of what could have been between January and May - and his contributions? He has not played striker at Arsenal for a full season.
He is going to contribute positively to the success we will have this season with goals, assists, hold up play, occupying defenders, and defensive grunt work when he returns. Fin.
Title contenders Chelsea are 18 points behind Arsenal.
They never were.
Nor was Liverpool.
So far the only surprise for me this season is Villa.
Didn’t see it coming.
Sorry you missed the sarcasm, Tom.
Damn!
I’m slipping.
Liverpool had more 'experts' backing them for the title than any other team, 5 wins out of 5 at the start of the season suggested they were 'contending'.
Sloppy as hell first half. Still won. That’s how champions behave. I think this is a better team than Wengers simply because they had the best or joint best player in the world at the time and very much relied on him and we are doing this as a team effort. More like pre CR7 era United
today the cutbacks worked well. We went away from them, and now they are paying dividends again. I think Mari cut backs are shit. But Saka and others can do them better
Like what kind of player Jesus is, full stop, amazing technical player in tight spaces, open things up for the team for sure.
However, we keep giving up goals once he comes on, obviously, others have subbed on, but there might be something to it.
Maybe switch it up, Jesus starts and Gyo finishes the game as I thought bournemouth players looked to be tiring late.
To understand why Mikel is continuing to start Gyokeres, you could probably go back to the 2018 World Cup to get a little insight. Giroud managed no goals or even shots on target. He played seven games and started all but the first game. France went 6 wins with 1 draw, scoring 14 goals and conceding 6.
To be clear, there are differences between Giroud and Gyokeres. Giroud was clearly better in the air with stronger link play but was a less clinical finisher than Gyok (although he could score spectacular goals) and if anything had less pace than our current CF. Deschamps saw Giroud as the ultimate dirty work CF, occupying defenders and creating space for players like Mbappe and Griezmann to exploit.
No Frenchman was complaining when Lloris lifted the cup that year although there were plenty of complaints during the tournament about Giroud's lack of goals and shots. I suspect that few Arsenal fans will be saying much if Odegaard lifts the Premier League trophy at the end of this season.
Excellent take BiC. I'm really yet to see our guy fluff a decent chance (maybe that very weak shot a couple of games ago in the first few minutes). He just doesn't seem to get clear chances. Now whether its because he can't get free from defenders, doesn't find the right positions or not receiving the pass or all of the above, I know i've not wanted a player to smash a goal as much as Gyok, in a long time. Just to get the narrative to change.
Like where you're going here... but Giroud's hold-up play was world class. He was also a total bully. He had super powers, even if pace was limiting
Giroud was also miles ahead in ball control. This is a major concern with Gyokeres.
You'll have no disagreement from me on that, Pedro. Giroud could be an absolute beast. Glad you see that there may be method to Mikel's madness in starting Gyokeres but it's hard to see him hanging on to that position when Havertz is healthy and match fit.
I think the method is having no options. But, like you point out, those options will be available soon
French all time top scorer as well.
57 goals, 15 assists in 7450 minutes (the equivalent of 83 full games).
Talking about Giroud, I am reminded of his 15-game drought in the PL (7 games off the bench). Well, Gyokeres is currently on a run of 1 non-penalty goal in 14 games. Top performer, I know.
Rap-it's great that you can find darkness in all the light that the club's shining in your direction right now.
So pretty much Giroud has massively, ginormously better aerial ability, hold up play and link up play but they are playing in a similar way. Got it.
How many league titles did we win with Giroud? cL’s?
We are going to win both with Gyok leading the line.
Results matter Rap.
The other 20+ players in the equation are irrelevant I see. Top tier analysis.
Giroud's aerial ability didn't move the needle much during that World Cup run if you watch those games back, Rap. Interesting how you only focused on Giroud's advantages over Gyok but not Gyok's advantages over Giroud.
The skills I mentioned are the cornerstone of why Giroud was picked in the WC. The advantages you're talking about are in terms of finishing - who cares if he hits the ball well if he lacks in terms of positioning, in terms of physical skills to reach balls or overpower defenders and takes a day to get himself ready to strike the ball.
His finishing skills help in what way? He's got a few tap-ins + 1 good goal against Leeds and a couple of pens.
3 non-penalty goals in 1240 minutes is a goal every 413 minutes. It's a shocking stat and he doesn't assist either.
His speed doesn't matter much either cause he's physically weak and the average PL defender outmuscles him and toys with him to the point he falls on his arse about 5-6 times per game.
Havertz does everything that Gyok does about 3x better and people were shitting on him. Now Gyokeres is the best cause he lost a duel but toepoked the ball sideways. Did the standards change?!
Martinelli won the aerial fight to get Gyok behind their defence by the way. He did what is expected of our CF but we'll never get to see. And our clinical striker couldn't get the job done so did the last option he had which was to pass sideways with the tip of his boot, out of balance, outmuscled yet again.
Interesting that you don't think pace is a factor in stretching defenders and creating space for your teammates.
As for Havertz, I'm not sure you noticed but he's been out since the opening day of the season. A fit and healthy Havertz will be an upgrade to Gyokeres, but that's irrelevant to my point.
Arteta, who might just know a little more about football than either of us, seems to have the confidence in Gyok to have him do a job for us despite his lack of scoring right now. The team's results, including winning our last 6 Premier League games in a row, seem to indicate that we're doing just fine with Gyok in the line-up.
"A fit and healthy Havertz will be an upgrade to Gyokeres, but that's irrelevant to my point."
The relevant point is no one is coming to big up Havertz if he had played today the exact game Gyok did. You can bet your house on that. But look at the love Gyok is receiving for another shite performance.
"The team's results, including winning our last 6 Premier League games in a row, seem to indicate that we're doing just fine with Gyok in the line-up."
That's how it works now? Okay. Owen Goal as our striker in hottest form and Gabriel who just returned scored 2 goals in 2 games already, compared to Gyok's 3 non-penalty goals in 18 games. We're scrapping somehow, not cause of him but you do you.
Giroud was a much much better footballer. Vik is Chamakh tier, but Chamakh could win headers in the box.
Gyok is playing in a system alien to what he's used to at Sporting. Once he figures it and the league out, the goals will start flowing. When last have we had a striker scoring all the goals with Artetaball. I can't see that happening anytime soon unless we change the way we play to suit one player and thats a pipe dream that Arteta will never go for. Give it a rest. Support the team and every player because they're doing wonders to be topping the league and CL. A gap is beginning to form. Its pointless talking shit and trying to derail what's happening. I see some berating Saka. Like WTF are you smoking! Everyone that plays is contributing and we're reaping the rewards. Just pray it keeps working out in our favor for the rest of the season. We need this lot to increase the gap and never let it shrink. It can be done. We have enough this time around.
Rice : “It's tough for him, because he's got two defenders on him all game, all over him. So he has to use his strength, he has to do all he can to help the team and with that goal, without him making that run from Gabi's flick and holding it, setting it off to Martin, that goal wouldn't happen.
“That was a pivotal moment in the game for us to turn the game on its head. I see how hard he hits a ball, and when that space arrives for him and the ball's arriving at his feet to score goals, he will 100 percent score.
“But at the minute, defenders in the Premier League want to be able to stop Viktor Gyokeres, because he's one of the best strikers in the world. Trust me, he's doing unbelievably for us, we wouldn't be where we are without him.”
And some here think Gyok is useless.
I'd agree with Rice re his 1st goal... Gyokeres indeed dragged 4 away , and Odegaard and Rice were in a bit of space when the ball got to them... it's just how it happened
The buts about hitting ball hard, would score when opportunity comes etc remain to be seen though Rice tends to be more down to earth in interviews ...
What's he supposed to say?
"me and the boys think he's shit, and we're playing with 10 when he's on"
Of course not, it's a softball media question with a softball media answer.
He said what he and I believe the entire team thinks about him. I'll trust that against any random guy online lol.
He didn’t have to elaborate that much to defend Gyok. He meant what he said. Could have left it at, he’s doing great. But no, he went in depth to show what he does and brings. I’ll listen to Rice over some child named Richie Rich.
So is the premise from Rice here that strikers that are scoring in the league aren't getting marked tight by multiple defenders?
You're weird
You should be on a spurs blog
Is that what you take from this? Bro. I can’t help you understand football.
Don't let rap hear that, he'd start a campaign against Rice
I'm waiting for it lol
Gyokeres cleared 5 men out of the way for ode and rice to be open to score that goal. My #14
All you lot who cannot see what Gyok brings to this team, notice the difference today when he was taken off?
His haters are blind I swear.
I recall 3 or 4 attempted passes to Gyokeres in the final 3rd... 2 overhit (Odegaard, Gabriel ),and the last one resulted in a Rice goal. That's what he works with...
I think he also won 2 defensive headers .
He completed 62% of his passes and didn't have a shot on target.
This guy is supposed to be the business, not swedish chamakh.
hello my blind brethren
I want a little more from my striker than "he tries hard and runs a lot", because lots of people can do that, and they dont cost that much in transfer fee and wages.
"he tries hard and runs a lot"
You just proved my point. You are either blind or do not understand football at all
Richie, how many sitters has Havertz missed ?
How was Jesus when he came
On? What happened with the match when Jesus came on
Jesus is coming back from long term injury. Whats Vik's excuse ?
Kai is going to take your boys job, sorry to break the news.
In case you forgot
https://youtu.be/i4w-EtbxF-8?si=YxlIF6y58ZttEFXm
The revisionism with Kai is beyond belief.
The issue is, when is he going to score?
Rice:
“It's tough for him, because he's got two defenders on him all game, all over him. So he has to use his strength, he has to do all he can to help the team and with that goal, without him making that run from Gabi's flick and holding it, setting it off to Martin, that goal wouldn't happen.
“That was a pivotal moment in the game for us to turn the game on its head. I see how hard he hits a ball, and when that space arrives for him and the ball's arriving at his feet to score goals, he will 100 percent score.
“But at the minute, defenders in the Premier League want to be able to stop Viktor Gyokeres, because he's one of the best strikers in the world. Trust me, he's doing unbelievably for us, we wouldn't be where we are without him.”
He sees it, you don't?
don't even bother with these morons
Moron?
Cheers mate.
I am really curious as to when he is going to unleash his 2 defender shackles and get banging in goals.
Saka managed it with 2 defenders glued to him.
So why can't Gyokeres if he is the striker we all hope he is?
Saka cannot do what Gyok does either so hush
Btw, comparing a winger to a striker. Well done genius lmao
We're talking about scoring goals.
Wingers and strikers are there to do both.
If Saka can, why can't Gyokeres?
We are 18 matches in and Gyokeres has only scored 5.
He's the striker and should be doing more at this stage.